3 questions from a youtube commenter


Someone with the username: john Eddy commented on my video at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFwK4Vkve1o

After some comments back and forth, he asked me three questions. I have a general idea of how I want to answer them, but I am sure that my pro-life friends from many different backgrounds have much more knowledge and experience with laws than I do. Therefore I would like some input.

Here are quotes from this user and my responses.

“Are you willing force woman to have children? If your answer is anything other than “Yes”, then there is no debate.”

No, that’s one reason why I am a virgin.

“Fair enough, but I didn’t mean you. With that in mind, same question.

“Are you willing force woman to have children? If your answer is anything other than “Yes”, then there is no debate.””

Maybe I don’t really understand what is behind your question. Men who rape women and get them pregnant are forcing them to have children, but I am not.

“Let’s forget about some of the details for a second, I just want to talk about the core of the issue. Let’s remove ourselves from the argument so that we can focus on the interests of others for now/ everyone else. So…

“Are you willing to force someone (women) to have kids?”

Although it’s an extreme example, let’s use what you said about rape. If a woman was raped then would you force her to have the child?”

She already has a child if she is pregnant. So I suppose you are asking if I would force her to let it live rather than kill it. Am I correct?

“Sure, let’s go with that. So is that a Yes or a No?”

Yes

“and would you make it legislation/ law?”

If that is what is required to end abortion, then yes. Still, my activism in no way will stop even if it becomes illegal. But I am not a politician anyhow nor would I become one. But I will vote for those who will outlaw it.

“Assuming that an Anti-abortion bill had passed, I’d like to ask a few hypothetical questions…

1. Who will enforce this legislature, and how?
2. Who will raise and sponsor unwanted children?
3. Will there be contraceptive methods/ programs available? What are they and who will pay for them?”

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Do Your Taxes Fund Abortions?


“Do your federal taxes fund abortions? Of course they do.

It’s true that the Hyde Amendment prohibits the Federal State from DIRECTLY paying for specific abortions, but that’s an arbitrary line, established because someone declared it exists. We maintain that your federal taxes really do pay for abortions because the supposed line between direct and indirect funding doesn’t really exist.

There is one word that explains the truth about abortion funding, and four other words that explain our position on this issue. Consider each of these words, and then draw your own conclusions. Let’s start with the most important word first . . .

FUNGIBLE

Money is fungible. A dollar used for one thing is exactly the same as a dollar used for another thing. The individual dollars are perfectly interchangeable. So . . .

What if federal politicians gave your tax money to a church, but with the limitation that the money could only be used for the soup kitchen, not for preaching?

Americans United for the Separation of Church and State would surely challenge this, arguing that it represents a partial “establishment of religion,” because tax funding for the soup kitchen would free-up other church resources that could then be used for proselytizing. In other words, tax money would be used to subsidize views that some may oppose.

In precisely the same way, if groups like Planned Parenthood get money to use for one part of their operations, they free up funds from other sources to be used for abortions. It really is that simple.

So you see, the Hyde Amendment really doesn’t stop tax funding of abortions. Your tax money is still subsidizing abortions, whether you like it or not. Which brings us to our next important word . . .

CHOICE

Those who advocate a right to abortion claim to be “pro-choice.”

But don’t those who oppose abortion have a right to NOT be forced to fund it?

We assert that they do. To truly be pro-choice, abortion providers must embrace voluntary funding as their sole means of support.

ENUMERATED POWERS

The Tenth Amendment makes clear that the powers of the Federal State are so limited that we can actually count them.

Can you find, in the Constitution, the power that authorizes Congress to fund abortion providers, or even “family planning?” We can’t.

It doesn’t exist.

CONSISTENCY

The decision, by Republicans, to divert the issue of spending cuts in the 2011 budget back to old, partisan hangups from the bygone culture war days, deserves criticism. It’s an attempt to . . .

* divert us from the enormity of the budgetary crisis.
* divide us — to scare people into supporting Republicans as the lesser of two evils, even if they don’t keep their Pledge to cut spending.

I signed a Downsizer-Dispatch, on April 13, 2001, that attacked this kind of manipulation.

Instead, we should all be CONSISTENT defenders of the Constitution, and more importantly, of the PRINCIPLES that underly it. For this reason we here at Downsize DC are CONSISTENTLY ANTI-PARTISAN. We are disinterested in partisan cheer-leading or supporting “the lesser of two evils.” That’s why we have CONSISTENTLY called for cuts to fan favorites of both the Left and the Right.

In the past, the Downsize DC team has earned the ire of conservatives who support war as a means of re-engineering the world, and who favor drug prohibition and other unconstitutional invasions of civil liberties. We also oppose the Left on such hypocrisies as denying choice to those who oppose abortion.

At Downsize DC we stand against expanding the power of the State and advocate serious cuts on EVERYTHING in the present budget. We urge you to join us in a consistent call to do the right thing. This is far more virtuous than cheering for the right team. We sincerely doubt that there is such a “right team,” but we can be sure that there are right principles.

Copyright (c) 2011 by Jim Babka. Permission to distribute this blog post for educational purposes is granted, if done with attribution to the author and the Downsize DC Foundation. Permission to use for commercial purposes is denied.”

https://secure.downsizedcfoundation.org/blog/do-your-taxes-fund-abortions

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How can prostitution ever be good


I recently found out that some people on Facebook seem to think that there is nothing wrong with prostitution or pornography. Because of this, I posted the following:

“After seeing a comment on one of my Facebook posts, I have been thinking carefully about part of what was said.

The part that shocked me was: “I also don’t have a problem with Prostitution or Pornography as long as it’s done by consenting adults & no Children are involved or come into contact with it.”

There are several things wrong with this reasoning. First of all, there are extreme problems with pornography and prostitution that most people are not seeing.

First of all, pornography is really an attempt to sell the human body for money. This seems to be no different that slaughtering a cow and selling the meat. Whether a person consents to such an action has very little to do with the harm that results in this belief. For example: A person may consent to giving a thief money if the thief is pointing a gun at them, but it is not something they would ordinarily do. Therefore such immoral actions are an enemy to both life and choice.

What I said above also applies to prostitution as well. The risks that would come with having sex with strangers are the same no matter how much money is paid. Aside from that, such a thing also can result in pregnancy. Therefore, it seems quite possible that children will come into contact with prostitution!

However, it seems that anyone who pays or accepts money for prostitution or pornography would most likely not see anything wrong with aborting any children conceived. If the standard of morality is money, then anything goes.

And this is why I could not let such a comment go unchallenged. It is wrong in so many ways. I hope that others learn not to accept such pro-death thinking.”

The comments I got were rather interesting. One person is arguing that prostitution should be legal.

She says: “I see that, with informed consent of all parties, sex is a service. It’s something you can give and receive and the exchange of currency can be a part of that.

With legalized prostitution, prostitutes are independent businesspeople. The industry is regulated, with health standards. Sex workers would be licensed, and have to have monthly tests. No longer would the industry be limited to people exploited by a pimp.

As for pornography, I see nothing wrong with consensually viewing other people having sex. We do all sorts of things to evoke emotions from other people. We dance, we create art, we make music. We give massages, we create candles to delight our senses. Why is sexual excitement so different?”

There were other comments by other people which I highly agreed with such as:

“In fact, prostitution and pornography seem to be pro-life issues because two of the main industries that want abortion legal are the prostitution and pornography industries.”

This is why I tend to think that prostitution and pornography need to end because they actually promote abortion. Of course they are also wrong for other reasons. The person who best explained this was Clinton Wilcox in his comment:

“Here’s the problem, though. Treating sex as if it’s simply a commodity instead of a procreative act is exactly how pro-choice people view sex — sex is a pleasurable act and pregnancy is an unintended consequence of having sex. We can’t reasonably divorce sex from its procreative function. I understand you’ve had bad experience with it, but we can’t allow our bad experiences to cloud our better judgement.

Legalizing prostitution may increase safety and well-being, but not being prostitutes would also increase their safety. This is a similar argument to wanting to legalize abortion to make it “safer.” It’s debatable whether or not making abortion legal will make it safer, but it’s not debatable that what would be even safer would be *not* having the abortion. Just like it’s debatable whether or not making it legal would make it safer, but not being a prostitute at all would be the safest thing of all.

The question is, is prostitution a moral, amoral, or immoral act. If there’s nothing wrong with prostitution or pornography, then there would be no problem in making it legal. If it’s immoral, is it the kind of immoral act that we should make illegal (since not everything that is immoral, like adultery, is illegal). I think that sex is the kind of act that is so personal and intimate that it should not be exploited, nor should it be sold for public consumption. When a man has sex with a woman, they become “one flesh” as the saying goes; this is why we’re only supposed to be with one sexual partner in our life.”

I happen to think that sex must be more than just a “commodity” or “service”. Being pro-life, I could never approve of anything that corrupts sex, the very thing that creates new life. This is why I find this to be extremely relevant to everything else I write about.

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Arguments against contraception


I had mentioned that I saw logical problems with birth control. Someone asked me: “Chandler, what are your logical oppositions? I’ve only ever heard opposition stemming from religion?”

The question was interesting because I guess it is uncommon for people to argue against contraception without a belief in any gods. I have written about this subject before, but this is the first time someone specifically was interested. I will try to explain clearly why I tend to favor abstinence over contraception.

My strongest argument is that birth control costs money. Abstinence is free. The reason that this is the strongest case I can make is that it is independent of the beliefs of anyone. It is just a fact.

My second problem with birth control is that sometimes things go wrong. Women get pregnant and then claim that it was an “accident”. This sends the message that someone believed, falsely, that they could not get pregnant if they used whatever forms of contraception they were using. Abstinence is still superior because it never fails.

Another problem I have with birth control is one that applies only to hormones taken by women to reduce their fertility. I see hormonal birth control as anti-woman because men would never be willing to put that stuff in their bodies, but they expect women to. I am concerned about the health risks that come with any medication, especially one that is not necessary. Since there are no risks involved in not having sex, abstinence remains the most logical choice. Other forms of contraception, such as condoms, I don’t really see anything wrong other than my first two arguments that all contraception is a waste of money and is not 100% effective.

But the reason I even considered writing about this topic is because it is a very hotly debated topic between some of my pro-life friends and I think that this conflict also needs to end because it divides people.

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Why calvinism is irrelevant


It should be obvious that I can’t accept calvinism. If you don’t know what it means, this link is an explanation and refutation to it:

http://www.bible.ca/calvinism.htm

Since I don’t believe in the christian god anymore, I don’t see need for atonement. Therefore Limited Atonement or Unlimited Atonement are equally irrelevant.

But the main problem with calvinism is the idea of Unconditional Election or Predestination. This is the belief that God decides who is going to heaven or hell completely independently of their beliefs or actions. Nobody REALLY believes this if they are trying to convert you to their religion.

Aside from the fact this this teaching makes no sense, it also can cause depression leading to suicide. This is the main reason that I hate it so much and have frequently mentioned it in other blog posts like the following.

http://chandlerklebs.wordpress.com/2014/02/24/why-determinism-is-irrelevant/

http://chandlerklebs.wordpress.com/2014/05/02/why-original-sin-is-irrelevant/

http://chandlerklebs.wordpress.com/2013/12/09/why-the-afterlife-is-irrelevant/

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Abortion prevention: don’t forget about the men


This is a post that I submitted to Kelsey Hazzard at Secular Pro-Life

http://blog.secularprolife.org/2014/08/abortion-prevention-dont-forget-about.html

I encourage everyone to go to the link and comment there. Also Kelsey put a funny picture of a pregnant looking man. However, for convenience of those who subscribe to my wordpress blog, I have also copied the text here.

Abortion prevention: don’t forget about the men

Consider this situation: A man chooses to have sex with a woman who he knows will go for an abortion if she gets pregnant. She does get pregnant. She goes to an abortionist, who performs the abortion. Which of the three people killed the baby? The father, mother, or abortionist?

It should be obvious that all three people played a part in the abortion. So no matter what your answer, you are partially correct. The father chose to do the one thing that could result in a pregnancy the mother did not want. The mother chose to abort rather than seeking out alternatives. The abortionist was the final step in causing the death of the baby.

Keeping all of that in mind, if you could go back and talk to one of the people—the father, mother, or abortionist—and convince them to become pro-life, which one would you choose?

Again, there’s no one right answer, but I would pick the father. Talking to the abortionist could have a major impact if he’s the only abortionist in town and has no one to replace him, but otherwise, the mother will just go elsewhere for the abortion. Of course talking to the mother is good because if her mind changes, the child will live. But will she have the support of the father? He had expected the mother to have an abortion even before they had sex, which implies that he has no interest in taking care of the child.

Talking to the father makes sense because he has the power to change his ways and stop creating children who will be killed. He also has the ability to support the mother in taking care of the children he is responsible for, making the mother less likely to want to abort. Many women abort due to fear of being a single mother.

Outreach to women in crisis pregnancy situations is great, but we need to make sure we’re reaching the men too, rather than placing all of the weight on the women. The idea that men are irrelevant to the abortion debate is incredibly misguided.

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Why watermelon is pro-life


pro-life-watermelon

Understanding my devotion to life is the key to understanding why all things that threaten life are automatically my enemy.

If something feels good to someone, normally, they will do it. The exception is when it can result in something that would feel bad for them or someone else.

With this premise, it makes sense that eating a watermelon is good for me since it tastes good and is not going to cause me to die any sooner than I would otherwise. It may cause me to live longer. Therefore, watermelon is pro-life enough for me.

By the same logic, something such as alcohol would likely cause sooner death to either the one who drinks it or to other people who are victims of car wreck caused by drunk driving. Therefore, the danger is too great to make it worth drinking alcohol even if the drunk person feels good while drunk. It is pro-death.

Therefore, it is not that I choose what I eat or drink, but rather that my previous choice of life cancels out all other things that conflict with it.

Knowing this, other humans can predict what I will say or do in a situation.

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