Death


Death

As far as I know, everyone knows that they will die eventually. Often though, people don’t talk about it. Lately it’s been on my mind a lot.

The reason people avoid this subject is most likely because there are disagreements on what happens after death.

Some people believe that people either go to heaven or hell. This is the general idea taught in the Bible, and it’s the one that I currently think is true. The most confusing debate is the reason people go to either of these places. Some think that good people go to heaven and bad people go to hell. That’s actually not what the Bible teaches nor can anybody agree on what good or bad deeds someone would have to do to deserve eternal reward or punishment. The main lesson of the new testament is that Jesus somehow paid the price for our sins by dying on the cross and that by believing this we go to heaven. Even as I write it I must admit that it doesn’t make sense to my brain, but I just wanted to define this before I mention the two alternate ideas about what happens after death.

The next idea is reincarnation. That generally means that after one life ends, then another begins in some other type of body. This new body could be another human, animal, plant, or maybe something else. I don’t really think that this would be a good idea unless someone could choose what they would be reborn as. If I could choose, I would probably want to be some kind of flying bird.

The next idea is oblivion, the idea that after death, people just don’t exist anymore. This idea is probably the easiest to understand and certainly sounds a lot better than either going to hell or being reborn as a cockroach. Of course some would rather go to heaven, but at least if you don’t exist, then you don’t care.

So far, those are the current theories I know of that people say happen after death.

I think that the way people live their lives is directly affected by what they think death is. For example, if you believe that someone doesn’t exist after they die, then what difference does it make how long they live or what they do. If you think that someone is doomed to go to hell if they haven’t accepted Jesus as their savior, then naturally you want to tell them about him before they die.

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Author: chandlerklebs

I have unusual thoughts on almost every subject. I am as Pro-Life as I can possibly be. I am strongly opposed to violence of any type. That includes rape, war, and (obviously) abortion. Everything I think, speak, and write must be filtered by the effect it could have on the lives of others. If I am in any way promoting violence accidentally, please let me know.

9 thoughts on “Death”

  1. “I think that the way people live their lives is directly affected by what they think death is.”

    There is no question that people’s beliefs are sometimes shape by the environment they are raised. I used “sometimes” because new circumstances or significant events can cause one to alter their beliefs with no change to one’s environment.

    I am sure you would agree that the truth is not bound by individual beliefs or opinions. And it should really matter to people what the truth is about death. Since the Bible is the written authority on this subject, it should be the standard since it will never change like people.

    That being said, the most single fact about death stated in the Bible is found at Ecclesiastes 9:4-6. This fact is never going to change. It stands alone as reality. Most people can not reconcile this simple Bible truth for many reasons, none to do with the Bible.
    Science has play a significant role in giving man hope in his endless pursuit for longer life. Where science falls short or is slow toward outcomes, religion for most people, is employed to drive hope, often times immorally and with reckless abandon.

    The good news is that there is more to the subject than “man born and then he dies”. Would you want to know what the real hope is for mankind as taught from the Bible? It is good news!!!

    1. Interesting reference from Ecclesiastes. It’s clear that the author thought there was no existence after death. Therefore, one could argue that the Bible teaches oblivion. This of course would mean Jesus died for nothing. Therefore one has to argue that either Ecclesiastes is wrong or the new testament gospels are wrong. In my opinion, Ecclesiastes is probably wrong.

      1. No, No the problem here my young friend is these verse cannot stand alone. In reading them one must understand all that is going on in the writing of all of Ecclesiastes. The author of this book is Solomon. Solomon is nearing the end of his life, and he has done everything under the sun. No man has been as rich or powerful as he nor shall there every be again. As wise as he is he messed up all of Israel and his kingdom was going to be divided. Solomon is saying all we do will soon be forgotten here on earth but all face the same death. After our death we get no second chance to do anything on this earth as it is now. You only get on chance to live then you die and you are judged by God.

      2. “It’s clear that the author thought there was no existence after death. Therefore, one could argue that the Bible teaches oblivion. This of course would mean Jesus died for nothing. Therefore one has to argue that either Ecclesiastes is wrong or the new testament gospels are wrong. In my opinion, Ecclesiastes is probably wrong.”

        chandlerklebs,
        2 Tim. 3:16 establishes the authority and ownership of the contents with the Bible. That being said, Solomon is just the mouth piece. The reality and actuality belong to God. So, we should not treat Solomon’s writings or statements as though they part of a debate with a bunch of “Higher Criticism” intellectuals. Remember where Solomon received his wisdom from.

        “Therefore, one could argue that the Bible teaches oblivion.”

        Yes, the Bible s quite clear about what happens at death. However, Jesus did not die for nothing.

        1. Jesus among other things, had to fulfill all the things prophesied about him, including the shadows, or patterns, contained in the Law covenant.
        2. Jesus spickFather’s prophetic word and promises, Jesus had to live in such a way as to make that truth become reality, fulfilling it by what he said and did, how he lived, and how he died.
        3. The whole career of Jesus Christ was a ‘bearing witness to the truth,’ to the things to which God had sworn.

        Couple the above with the fact that he had to die so that all of mankind may have hope and a opportunity to live. The Christian Greek Scriptures make clear that the release from sin and death is indeed by the paying of a price. Christians are said to be “bought with a price” (1Co 6:20; 7:23), having an “owner that bought them” (2Pe 2:1), and Jesus is presented as the Lamb who ‘was slaughtered and with his blood bought persons for God out of every tribe, tongue, and nation.’ (Re 5:9).

        So, the Christ did not die for nothing.

      3. “2 Tim. 3:16 establishes the authority and ownership of the contents with the Bible. That being said, Solomon is just the mouth piece. The reality and actuality belong to God. So, we should not treat Solomon’s writings or statements as though they part of a debate with a bunch of “Higher Criticism” intellectuals. Remember where Solomon received his wisdom from.”

        Sadly as one who has read all of Ecclesiastes and knows that Solomon worshipped other gods and had 700 wives and 300 concubines, I can say without doubt that whatever wisdom he had clearly didn’t last forever and he had no business writing Ecclesiastes or Song of Solomon.

    2. In my opinion, Ecclesiastes is probably wrong.”

      You do not have to take this position. Just use the Bible to understand. Think about it. Have you every read anywhere in the Bible, ‘Old or New Testament”, where people have been resurrected from the dead talking about them being in a place of torture of heavenly paradise? No one resurrected ever said they wanted to go back to where they cam from. So, if you have an opinion, it certainly is not based on the Bible.

      1. Okay chandlerklebs. Let us start at what is really bothering you. It is wise to question things you do not understand. However, the situation concerning Solomon is not difficult at all to understand.

        So, here is the short or summary of the situation concerning Solomon.

        As long as Solomon remained true to the worship of Jehovah, he prospered. Evidently his proverbs were uttered, and the books of Ecclesiastes and The Song of Solomon, as well as at least one of the Psalms (Ps 127), were written during his period of faithful service to God. So, at some point, Solomon, though imperfect, was obedient to his God. However, he did not remain this way. You may recall, before Solomon started taking wives, he was instructed not to by Jehovah. But he did not listen and started marrying foreign wives. This is when things started going bad for Solomon. Just as his God warned, these wives started to turn his heart towards worshiping foreign gods. This in turn put him at odds with Jehovah. Jehovah remove his Spirit from Solomon and it was the beginning of the end for Solomon’s kingship and the prosperity and peace of Israel. Solomon did not die an approved man of Jehovah.

        Also, keep in mind that although Jehovah’s Spirit operated upon him to produce the wisdom he possessed, he was still a imperfect man. He did spot being a sinner just because he had God’s Spirit. He was no different than anyone else when it came to obedience to Jehovah. The Bible speaks of many that started out one way and ended up another.

        So, too today. God is using imperfect humans to preach and teach the good news of his kingdom. Some of these people, at one time, were nothing they are now. And them you ave the one that return to their old personality after know the truth. Yet, the Christ died for all of these people. These people will be resurrected.

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