Defining All


Defining All

I was having a talk with my mom about exactly what parts of the Bible mean when they say the word “all”.

Take for example, this commonly used verse from Romans.

Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

Who exactly is all? Is it all humans? Is it all creatures on earth? The solar system? Universe? Does it include God himself? Even if you define what sin is, the all is a complete mystery.

The key is given in verse 9

3:9 What then? Are we better off? Certainly not, for we have already charged that Jews and Greeks alike are all under sin,

Since the context of the chapter is talking about two groups of people, the jews and the greeks, my mom had suggested that maybe the English word “both” would make more sense than “all”. For example, we would say that apples and oranges are both fruit.

Either way, someone could use these verses to say that both jews and greeks have sinned, but to say that all the jews or all the greeks have sinned is simply not true. Babies who have not been born yet can’t really do much of anything. They can’t do anything which would be considered good or bad by any standard. By this logic, it only makes sense that this “all” doesn’t include the unborn.

Another example two sources that say that God created all things.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was fully God. 1:2 The Word was with God in the beginning. 1:3 All things were created by him, and apart from him not one thing was created that has been created.

Revelation 4:11 “You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, since you created all things, and because of your will they existed and were created!”

When I think about it, I have a problem with God creating “all” things. Does this include Mosquitos, Cockroaches, Spiders, or Flies? I think not.

A year ago I decided that God can’t be all knowing or all powerful. I found a lack of support for that in the Bible and it contradicts free will. I don’t disagree that God has more power and knowledge than any human does. It’s the “all” part that I disagree with.

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Author: chandlerklebs

I have unusual thoughts on almost every subject. I am as Pro-Life as I can possibly be. I am strongly opposed to violence of any type. That includes rape, war, and (obviously) abortion. Everything I think, speak, and write must be filtered by the effect it could have on the lives of others. If I am in any way promoting violence accidentally, please let me know.

8 thoughts on “Defining All”

  1. I agree with you about Romans.

    About John 1

    Forget Creation Myth

    Consider religion of faith. Think therapy.

    Check it out: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness

    Check it out:

    Check it out:

    Check it out: ” In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome[a] it”

    Combine.

    Sorry for the quick quote response.

    –hartnell

  2. Matt 17:20

    “You don’t have enough faith,” Jesus told them. “I tell you the truth, if you had faith even as small as a mustard seed, you could say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it would move. Nothing would be impossible.”

    –hartnell

      1. So, my point was:

        Christianity is a religion of faith which is designed to cure learned helplessness.

        Learned helplessness is like this:

        A baby elephant’s leg is tied to a rope attached to a stake on the ground. While it’s a baby it struggles to pull out the stake but can’t do it. It tries and it tries but eventually it gives uo completely.

        Later, when the elephant is older, it could easily pull up the stake but it gave up a long time ago and doesn’t even try.

        However, if the adult elephant has the tiniest amount of faith… (mustard seeds are really small) .. it could do something that it thinks would be impossible: pull up the stake and run away.

        Am I making any sense?

      2. I think I get what you’re saying. You can’t do something if you don’t believe that you are capable of it. The elephant does not know that it’s strength has increased.

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