Stressed Out Rant


Life is hard. Working takes far too much mental energy trying to please everyone and obey all their demands. I face this at work and then when I’m home my mom wants me to do things and I can’t follow directions right and I get yelled at. I’m just sick of it. This is just one reason I had to quit doing the podcasts like I was for the past few years. I also had a big blow up with Monique and told her the Celibate Vegan Voices show is off until further notice. It’s a miracle if I can even survive working at Hy-Vee and helping my mother with all the things I can’t do.

And besides that, what good has it done that I’ve talked about the controversial topics through podcasts, books, and social media. It hasn’t changed the immeasurable suffering humans inflict on each other and and billions of animals. I hope I’m wrong and that it does some good but the bottom line is that I see the utter hopelessness of my efforts. It comes down to the fact that I can’t change people including even myself to be the perfect person everyone wants me to be.

As much as possible I’m going to focus on doing what I like. Art, video games, dancing, whatever. And every time someone criticizes me for this, such as Monique recently did, I will just have to cut off ties with them at least temporarily.

And it’s not necessary to go into the details of the problems I have with Monique, my mother, or anyone else. You know why? Because then other idiots will agree with the people who are stressing me out and believe that I’m the problem.

So regardless of what your opinion is or what you think of me, I’m just having this rant so that people know I’m under a lot of stress and it’s probably best not to make me any angrier than I already am. I’m not looking for advice or criticism, constructive or otherwise about what I need to do to fix my life. Improving one’s quality of life depends 100% on how much money they have and how supportive the people around them are.

I would however like to end on a positive note. I recently had a good time at a party with my Hy-Vee coworkers. Joette brought a vegetable tray and some beans with no meat added that she knew I would eat. At least the people I work with are generally supportive of my convictions as a vegan. Sure they may not understand the reasons behind it, in spite of my quite public explanations online, but they are generally good people who treat other humans well even if they pay others to murder animals for the sake of their taste buds or false beliefs about protein.

I believe this post will be helpful to my true friends who will know I’m having a hard time so that they can possibly understand. However in the event that someone leaves stupid comments I will most likely delete them. Then they will know the frustration of realizing they’ve wasted their time. More than anything that is the frustration I feel.

At least I do have good times in life with my coworkers and doing my geometric art or playing some Minecraft with Jamie and WSD. I will do what I can to maximize my happeness for my own sake and for everyone else because I don’t want to take out my frustrations on others. I know I’m not perfect that that I say unkind things when I’m too upset. I apologize for those I have hurt in this way in spite of the fact that I also cannot be literally blamed. The understanding that none of us are responsible for our thoughts and actions because we don’t cause our own parents to have sex in the first place or raise us the way they did has been a helpful understanding to me in my own emotional health. And of course helping others to understand this was what the Free Will, Science, and Religion podcast was about.

But perhaps sometimes people are unable to understand this and think that my challenging the belief in free will, advocating veganism, or exposing religion for the fraud that it is, that I’m just doing to be mean to them. Nope, that’s not it at all. I just want them to be spared the suffering that comes from incorrect thoughts and actions.

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Author: chandlerklebs

I have unusual thoughts on almost every subject. I am as Pro-Life as I can possibly be. I am strongly opposed to violence of any type. That includes rape, war, and (obviously) abortion. Everything I think, speak, and write must be filtered by the effect it could have on the lives of others. If I am in any way promoting violence accidentally, please let me know.

19 thoughts on “Stressed Out Rant”

  1. Wage slavery; I know what that’s like. I’m presently a wage slave, and have been for some time.

    Advice from shallow optimists won’t, of course, help anything. Personally, I think it’s best to just acknowledge that life is suffering, that is, life is by its very nature, suffering. Not that you don’t already know this.

    Schopenhauer: There is only one inborn error, and that is the notion that we exist in order to be happy.

    I found it interesting that you’re making geometric work. I studied painting in college and was making mostly minimal geometric forms. A little like Ellsworth Kelly, though not nearly as good.

    1. At least you understand. I know entirely what you mean by the shallow optimists. Stuff like “It’s not really that bad.” or “You have the power to make your own happiness.” or “Get another job if you don’t like it.”.

      I’ve found that removing the expectation of a happy life helps a little bit, as does my art. If you haven’t seen my art already take a look at these.

      https://society6.com/chandlerklebs

  2. Thanks for sharing your work. Really beautiful, like them a lot.

    This is obviously purely hypothetical, but I wanted to get your thoughts on it:

    Suppose we could painlessly and instantly kill every sentient being on this planet by pressing a button. Would you press it?

    Hypotheticals like these are not always so useful, but I think sometimes they can help to define the scope of certain values we hold.

    Thanks.

  3. Totally agree. So then would you say killing Itself is not a wrong? Is it wrong because (or when) it causes subsequent harm or suffering?

    I agree with your general position on free will as well.

    1. Correct. Killing causes harm to the survivors who still exist. Additionally it almost always involves pain while dying.

      Also, one of the things that bothers me is that killing is done most of the time for profit rather than out of mercy to end suffering. The reason behind the killing matters greatly to me because I see a difference between killing as a rare event to end the pain of terminally I’ll compared to the killing of billions just to get money for it.

      1. And so suicide you would normally object to on the grounds that it causes pain to others? (Although, there are many cases in which it would be wrong not to assist one in dying.)

        Yes, and in general it seems, when we are willing to kill a being for profit, we are willing to make that being suffer in whatever way for profit as well, which is arguably much worse.

        Another hypothetical case: Imagine a world where there will never be pain, just pure pleasure. Suppose you can decide whether or not to bring this hypothetical world into being. Would you feel that you had an obligation to bring it into existence? That is, would it be wrong not to?

        Thanks.

      2. And so suicide you would normally object to on the grounds that it causes pain to others? (Although, there are many cases in which it would be wrong not to assist one in dying.)

        Yes, and in general it seems, when we are willing to kill a being for profit, we are willing to make that being suffer in whatever way for profit as well, which is arguably much worse.

        Another hypothetical: Imagine a world where there will never be pain, just pure pleasure. Suppose you can decide whether or not to bring this hypothetical world into being. Would you feel that you had an obligation to bring it into existence? That is, would it be wrong not to?

        Thanks.

  4. “And so suicide you would normally object to on the grounds that it causes pain to others? (Although, there are many cases in which it would be wrong not to assist one in dying.)”

    Yes I think I can agree to that. Additionally I also think it’s wrong to charge someone money for ending their life. That’s because it means that only the wealthy have access to the exit to their suffering.

    “Yes, and in general it seems, when we are willing to kill a being for profit, we are willing to make that being suffer in whatever way for profit as well, which is arguably much worse.”

    Exactly. And that’s why profit creates a warped focus where people are willing to cause more pain because profit is the #1 motive.

    “Another hypothetical: Imagine a world where there will never be pain, just pure pleasure. Suppose you can decide whether or not to bring this hypothetical world into being. Would you feel that you had an obligation to bring it into existence? That is, would it be wrong not to?”

    Yeah if I could bring a perfect world where nobody would suffer, I couldn’t live with myself if I did not do so. Particularly if it meant sending them to that world and out of this one.

  5. That’s an excellent point. There are many advantages to having more money, and some of these arguably concern rights (like assistance in dying), not what we generally think of as privileges.

    In one of his sermons, Martin Luther King Jr. points out how many people allow ‘the means By which they live to outdistance the ends For which they live’. The means being things like money, and the ends being, of course, moral or spiritual.

    That’s interesting. So maybe we disagree slightly here. That is, I think I would be pretty much indifferent to bringing this hypothetical world into being. The main reason is that nobody would exist and nobody would want, desire, or indeed need, any of these pleasures. In other words, I wouldn’t feel like the nonexistence of this world would in any sense be bad, as it wouldn’t harm anyone or leave anyone’s demands unanswered. Of course, I’m assuming now that the comparison is between nobody existing at all and this hypothetical utopia.

    1. If we compare nobody existing to a world where people experience bliss, then I would be indifferent too as no one would care about not existing to experience the pleasure.

      I was of course comparing people living in the ideal world compared to the one we live in currently.

  6. Well then I think we agree on just about every fundamental ethical point.

    By the way, I discovered your beautiful book, Shape Happens, on Amazon. Seriously considering getting one.

  7. Yeah, I’m excited to see all those forms and variations.

    Here’s some of my stuff, if you’re interested: edwardfujiki.com

  8. The book arrived today. Thanks.

    The succession/progression(?) of the forms is curious and thought-provoking.

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